Nov 10 2012

If the Taliban are not responsible for 9-11, then why are we still fighting them?

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By Ramy Osman
November 2012

For it to be the longest war in American history, it’s difficult to explain what the Afghanistan War is really about. Just like in Iraq, the reasons used to justify this war have changed over the years because people are either too arrogant or too ignorant to admit a mistake. There really is no clear mission. And it will be virtually impossible for the US government to ever know when “victory” is achieved. An important question remains: Did any Taliban, or any Afghan for that matter, have anything to do with 9-11? The answer is a resounding ‘No’. The 9-11 attackers were Arab, mostly Saudis and Emiratis. The Taliban are Afghan, and have no ethnic relation to Arabs. The Taliban also played no role in 9-11, and were mostly unaware of what al Qaeda had planned from within the borders of Afghanistan.

Directly after 9-11, and in response to US demands, the Taliban did offer to give up Bin Laden on condition that America produces evidence showing his involvement in the attacks. They placed this condition because Bin Laden originally denied his involvement. They also distanced themselves from Bin Laden and urged that America investigate the 9-11attacks before it decides to bomb Afghanistan. The US government refused this offer because they had no evidence. Once Afghanistan was bombed, the Taliban then offered to give up Bin Laden unconditionally; where he would be handed over to the OIC (Organization of Islamic Conference) or another third-party. But again,the US refused. This refusal clearly shows that the US was never interested in Bin Laden. The target of America’s attack was the Taliban and their removal from power. This was despite the fact that the Taliban never attacked or even threatened America, or any other country for that matter.

It would be wrong to try to explain the Afghanistan War as part of the “war on terror”. Prior to the American invasion, the Taliban were never involved in international terrorism and never threatened a foreign country. To this day, the majority of Afghans don’t even know what 9-11 is. Afghans who are fighting American and NATO troops, do so because they view themselves as defending their country. A recent study which surveyed over a thousand villagers in war districts found that 92% percent of the males did not know about “this event which foreigners call 9-11”. We’re not talking about people in Kabul, the capital of Afghanistan. We are not talking about Afghan intelligentsia, professionals or university students. We are talking about people who make up 90% of Afghanistan, who live in rural villages and for the most part, have no connection to the outside world. When shown pictures of 9-11 with the exploding twin towers, some village elders even speculated that the pictures may be that of buildings in Kabul. This is their reality. It’s a reality that does not revolve around 9-11

This is a difficult concept for many Americans to grasp: How can the people we’re attacking because of 9-11, not know what 9-11 is? How can they not know that over three thousand Americans were killed by non-Afghans over 11 years ago? Don’t they know that we’re defending ourselves by fighting people who never attacked us? Don’t they know that we’re the good guys?

If one breaks away from this delusional ignorance and develops a sense of reality, they might come to realize that the Taliban have simply been defending themselves against foreign invaders since the beginning of the war. Maybe this line of thinking will lead to accusations of being an  enemy sympathizer or even a terrorist supporter. But it is yet to be seen: What qualifies the Taliban as our enemy, and what justifies the Afghanistan War as the longest war in American history? They governed Afghanistan for only 5 years and never threatened a foreign country. They were one of the poorest and weakest countries in the world, only to be attacked by the most powerful. They may have been violent and harsh to their own people, but they were never violent or harsh to anyone outside of their borders. If 9-11 is an illegitimate reason to justify fighting the Taliban and their Afghan allies, then nothing else can be used to justify the war..

So how did the Taliban come to power? The circumstances surrounding that are complicated and should only be dealt with by the Afghan people. The Taliban didn’t participate in fighting the Russian invaders in the 1980s. However, they did end the civil war that raged after the Russians retreated in defeat. They accomplished this by fighting against rivals and brutal warlords who ruled regions around Afghanistan. Some warlords were defeated by the Taliban; Others were absorbed into the Taliban movement bringing with them their criminal and brutal tactics.

Even though they were able to force a cease fire in Afghanistan, their 5 year rule was considered brutal by many Afghans. And the American invasion has only helped the Taliban to reinforce their brutality by giving them a cause to rally around. But they don’t have a monopoly on brutality. It is true that there are elements within the Taliban that justify the killing of innocents, but it’s also true that elements of the American government justify “collateral damage”. They terrorize those who are not part of their alliance, but so does America with its “shock and awe” campaigns and drone strikes. The Pakistan Taliban have now famously attempted to assassinate a 14 year old girl, Malala Yousafazi, who spoke out against them; But America successfully assassinated a 16 year old American boy, Abdulrahman al Awlaki, for being the son of someone who spoke out against America. Neither side has a moral high ground, and neither side can justify its criminal and terrorist activities.

Despite how cruel they can be, the Taliban did end the Afghan civil war of the 1990s thus bringing an end to decades of fighting in Afghanistan. As destructive as some elements of the Taliban are towards Afghans, they had solved one of the countries worst problems. But their solution turned out to be just as bad or worse than the problem they solved. Regardless, it is the Afghan people who have to deal with this dilemma, not the American people.

If the Taliban are not responsible for 9-11, then why are we still fighting them? Is it that we  know what’s best for Afghanistan? Are our bombs supposed to teach them to be civilized, peaceful and democratic? Or are we trying to create more enemies so that the American war machine will continue to provide jobs? Americans have failed yet again at preventing our government from sabotaging and destroying another country that never attacked or threatened us. American voters share the responsibility of the criminal and terrorist acts of the leaders they elect. These are leaders who authorize foreign policies of death and destruction. It’s a shame that most Americans either arrogantly try to justify these foreign policies, or ignorantly vote for these leaders while thinking that their vote can be isolated into an imaginary box of domestic policies.

Afghanistan is for the Afghan people. Let them sort out their own problems, and let them define their country on their own terms. They’ve been fighting invading forces for centuries. And they have a reputation of being one of the fiercest resisters to invaders. They will continue to fight until today’s invaders retreat in the same way that previous invaders retreated. It’s just a question of when will the invaders swallow their pride and acknowledge that “victory” is not theirs to claim.

With more than 2,000 American soldiers killed, and over 15,000 Afghan civilians killed, it’s sad that the point of the Afghanistan War is still not known, and depressing that so many Americans are silent about it.

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  1. Asad Khan

    I always believed that the Taliban was responsible for the attack but after reading this article it does that strike me that, that this theory of Afghanistan being innocent is also possible because the reason why America is having a war with Afghanistan is unexplainable
    America might say that they’re there to beautify they’re country & make them literate & enlighten them but who are they? God?
    Who gave them that right to enter some country & teach them how to live?
    Then why?
    It’s strange that not many people wonder about these things!

  2. danishkhanjatoi

    Omg,so afghani peoples are not involved in 9/11 , afghans still there,they r on true path.

  3. danishkhanjatoi

    Omg,so afghani peoples are not involved in 9/11 , afghans still there,there r on true path.

  4. abubaqar

    dear rami,

    I differ with you in regard to ANY muslims doing 9-11. it was done by the zionist jews to foment war on islam and a clash of civilizations between islam and christianity while the zionist jew waits eagerly to take over after the war finishes! listed below is some reasons what i am saying is true as recorded by an american citizen,lastly all of you should listen to sheikh imran hosein on youtube lecturing on this matter.

    With a peer-reviewed scientific journal having published “loaded gun” (i.e. unreacted nano-thermite) evidence finally proving beyond doubt that World Trade Center Buildings 1, 2 and 7 were brought down in a series of controlled demolitions, here are a few more facts to consider.

    It wasn’t Muslims in an Afghan cave who had access to highly energetic nano-thermites; it was the US military and government scientists such as those connected with NIST.

    It wasn’t Muslims who ran a construction company that …

    SEE REST OF ARTICLE HERE: http://www.takeourworldback.com/itwasntmuslims.htm

    …The mainstream media’s conspicuous silence over the collapse of the official 9/11 conspiracy theory has clearly exposed them as “the dogs that didn’t bark”.

    This was inspired by an excellent piece from back in November 2003: It Wasn’t Arabs by Edgar J. Steele

    Take Our World Back! front page

    1. ramy

      Thanks. I had to edit your “comment” becasue it was more like a thesis than a comment. We’re hoping to have an M4L forum where you can post stuff like that. Until then, please limit yourself to your own words.
      Yes there are some “American citizens” who think this way. But to think that no Muslim had a role in 9-11 is to think that Muslims are incapable of atrocities. There’s no doubt that the “Official” version of 9-11 is incomplete, redacted, etc. Only God knows if truth and justice will prevail here. But we’re only concerned with peoples behavior after that day. There are people who are Muslim, Christian, Jew, Atheist, etc who are all guilty of exceeding the bounds by committing and endorsing murder and atrocities.

  5. Arabs worship jews, not Allah

    Forget bloody Americans fighting Taliban. Tell me, why are we Muslims behaving like agents of Satan? Why are Sunnis taking lives of innocent Syrians? Why are Arab sheikhs so madly after Iran that they conspire with enemies of God, the Jews, to destroy Iran? I’m a Sunni myself but I spit on all those hypocrite bearded Muslims, who take Israeli shit and are destroying their own brothers’ houses, killing women and hanging children. Hell with you Arabs. You’re all enemies of Allah and need to be bombed by Israel. Only then will some Saladin emerge from your ranks (or will he, actually?).

  6. Mick

    Because Cheney is “to Bad to Prosecute “…its the post 911 way .

  7. Thomas GX (@BOMBOVA)

    Heroin, makes people sick n addicted. In Vancouver , i serve and protect. the City, the Metro area, n the entire Province of British Columbia, the point is, that here, n New York Long Island, Cops are saying, their sons are now addicted to Heroin, sick, and unproductive in life. all across America it is a scourge. Until there is focus on Health, and good Social Adventure, rebuilding America, finding value in Americans, promoting America as a good place to live. this Military sickness ” military adventure ” goes on. There is a lot to do in America, this foreign adventure, is a failure and a mistake.

  8. jaydi

    Because heroin production is up from 185 tons a year to 5,800 since we invaded. It was never about the taliban. Its not about our troops.

    Its about the slimy rat claw f*ck sticks who run the world and how much they like to see us all get sick and die.

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